Bloggers ask for the numbers on marijuana prohibition

I have recently moved to Idaho, and I now go to a few local Idaho blogs.  One of the coolest blogs (and most frusterating) is the Idaho Falls Today blog @  www.idahofallstoday.com

This blog from the get go posted up my first protest in Idaho, the marijuana Tax Day protest, which you can see here:

Marijuana Tax Day Protest @ Idaho Falls Today

One thing about people on the internet is that most of the will say things to others on the internet that they would NEVER say to people in their face.

I recently noticed that Im not the only one with this concern on this site:

http://www.idahofallstoday.com/2007/03/14/into-the-woods-of-anonymous-speech/#comment-31631

But when it comes to marijuana legalization, there is a hostile presence of these anonymous folks, and it seems like they don’t want this topic discussed.
It’s not that they simply don’t have any interests in this topic.  It is that they go out of their way to read what I say, and the respond with a hostile message about me, or the subject.
They will say “I hate coming to this site, and seeing marijuana is the topic”..
What puzzles me is that they have to actually dig, and make a lot of effort to even find the topic.  It’s no longer on the front page, yet they still hunt this topic down, and respond in fury against it.

Well, to curb that insane behavior from effecting the conversation, I am just going to post one of the most relevant responses in the whole discussion:

Marcus from:   http://www.diseasedmedia.com/

Says this:

“you’re posting figures, please cite your sources. Math is fine and dandy, but anybody can throw a number out there and multiply it by another number.”

The reason that is so relevant, is because he is one of few asking for answers, and usually participating constructively in the conversation.

The answer is helpful for our community too, so I am posting it here so that when people ask for the numbers and the references it will be easy to find:

People keep saying that they want references.

Example:  Anonymouse “You don’t seem to want to point out all the information on anything. You pick and choose what you want people to know and the fact is, people aren’t going to prison for petty marijuana possesion”

So far I have given the reference of a respectable, conservative judge:

His website:

http://www.judgejimgray.com/

Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RWfCwl0lZo

I have given a reference from a Harvard economist:
Dr. Jeffery Miron

http://www.prohibitioncosts.org/

Youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GXQ4xSgIuY

I have given a link to Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, which is a group of nearly 1,000 current and former law enforcement agents that voice this data also.

http://www.leap.cc

YouTube Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LayaGk0TMDc

And if your visit MPP, you will see more mynute details on this topic.

http://blog.mpp.org/category/tax-and-regulate/

And if you want the best reasons I’ve ever heard. Look up what Ron Paul says about it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaSCd-1IVYY

And this one specifically to Marcus’ statement:

Marcus, which numbers did I not give references for?

You mean, how many people are in prison, and what it costs to house them?

Here is a graph (which also shows why 2002 data is not as relevant to 2009 data)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_correctional_population_timeline.gif

Here is a worldwide graph:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Incarceration_rates_worldwide.gif

Here is for current numbers and the increase:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:US_incarceration_timeline-clean.gif

Wiki says this about the costs of incarceration:

“The United States spends an estimated $60 billion each year on corrections.[69] While cost varies from state to state, in 2005, the average cost of incarceration per prisoner in the United states was $23,876. That comes out to $65.41 per day.”

(4 years old)

This is also information from 4 years ago, from the Department of Justice:

http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/p05.pdf

More information about “the war on drugs”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_on_drugs

This futile war on drugs, is only fueled by dogma.  Not facts.  The people support prohibition support the following:

  • The criminal, un-taxed and unregulated black market
  • Cartel violence at the border and in our streets
  • 45 Billion or more per year of tax payer money that is spent on policing and incarcerating non-violent drug offenders
  • The ruined lives of so many who get caught up in the drug war
  • And they are ignoring 35-50 Billion dollars that the USA would receive in tax revenue from legalization

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